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[Sep. 18th, 2004|12:11 am]
Fans of Achilles, Hector & the Heroes of the Iliad
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After seeing Troy, we looked up the story online to see what truth there was in the movie...they did pretty well as far as I can tell, except that it didn't actually end so well in the real story....I actually thought that Brad Pitt was believeable as Achilles. In real life, I think that Achilles was not so buff, since his mother hid him with a bunch of girls and apparently no one noticed. Perhaps that adds to his legendary status as a demigod- the fact that maybe in Real Life he looked like a wuss but was a rad fighter? Just a thought I just came up with. But anyways, while we looked up the story, I noticed that several characters were referred to at different times by different names, but Achilles is always just "Achilles". Does he have another name, or was he so spectacular a warrior that everyone remembered it? I admit I know very little about the Trojan War, but if anyone wants to fill me in on this, that would be appreciated.

[User Picture]From: applegnat
2004-09-18 08:00 am (UTC)
Not really. He is widely acknowledged to be the most beautiful male hero in history (at least in the Greek accounts). I think there must have been an element of androgyny in his looks for the cross-dressing to work, but he was 14 during that episode, and with a little careful disguise I think most beardless boys could be made to look like girls - long sleeves, scarves, veils and so on.

As for the other names - the Greek convention is the traditional 'x son of y', so Achilles (or Akhilleus, to be pedantic), being the son of Peleus, was also called Peleides.

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From: rockmygypsysoul
2004-09-21 10:45 pm (UTC)
i definitely had no problem with brad pitt running around in practically nothing either. If I were a demigod, what would the point of armor be?
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[User Picture]From: raiknii
2005-08-19 06:51 pm (UTC)
When you say different names, what are you talking about? Different spellings, or completely different names, like Paris/Alexander? The different spellings would be because Achilles is well-known, so they have a "normal way" of spelling it. The other people - well, scholars all translate it to english differently, so...

Besides, there are other ways of saying it. I use "Akhilleus" in my head, but not in public, because no one would know who the heck I'm talking about. ^_^ Everyone is just used to 'Achilles'.

And as far as I know, Paris/Alexander was the only one who had two names in the original story, but I may have just forgotten.

As for being buff - I'm sure ten years of war would make anyone buff. During the movie, they sort of mashed the beginning and end of the Trojan War together, and cut out the middle. In the real story, Achilles was only fourteen or fifteen when he went to war. I guess the movie-makers didn't want to bother to hire a young Achilles or something.

Watching the movie burned my eyes, it was so historically inaccurate. They cut out everything after Achilles died. I personally think they should've called the movie "Achilles" or something, because the movie was not about Troy!

...Oh, gee, I sound like one of those purists, don't I? I don't mean to be offensive, I just get annoyed, because all of these "historical epics" are so inaccurate. I could list, but that'd take too long, methinks.
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